Interview with Phyllis Chisholm, Lillian Bartlett, May 10, 1979

Project: Frontier Nursing Service Oral History Project

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Interview Summary

At the time of the interview Phyllis Chisholm was a director of nurse education in England, and Lillian Bartlett was an educational supervisor who visited training schools for the Central Midwives' Board. They comment upon a number of factors that changed English midwifery practices and also talk about nursing and health care. Chisholm indicates that the English nurse never performs the particular functions of the American family nurse practitioner and that she, Chisholm, is opposed to the latter concept; the English nurse performs more of a preventive role and may never diagnose or treat. The English midwife does not assess the condition of the patient during pregnancy as does her American counterpart, and the English doctor determines all treatment. Chisholm talks about hospital facilities in England and the low incidence of home births; she is greatly in favor of hospital deliveries. The informants discuss Mary Breckinridge and the application of her concepts to the FNS area. All comment upon the differences between the British philosophy of nursing and the FNS concept of the nurse-midwife. Some differences are seen to result from the orientation of Britons toward socialized medicine.

[Molly Lee also briefly participates in this interview.]

Interview Accession

1979oh197_fns096

Interviewee Name

Phyllis Chisholm

Lillian Bartlett

Interviewer Name

Dale Deaton

Interview Date

1979-05-10

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Chisholm, Phyllis Interview by Dale Deaton. 10 May. 1979. Lexington, KY: Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries.

Chisholm, P. (1979, May 10). Interview by D. Deaton. Frontier Nursing Service Oral History Project. Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries, Lexington.

Chisholm, Phyllis, interview by Dale Deaton. May 10, 1979, Frontier Nursing Service Oral History Project, Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries.





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